Interview with Foreign Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on ABC TV
December 1, 2002
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: As officials continue to investigate the
terrorist attacks against Israeli targets in Kenya this week, United
States security agencies are warning airlines and airports here at
home to be on alert for more threats from shoulder-fired missiles.
With the latest from Israel, we're now joined by Foreign Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu. Good morning, Mr. Netanyahu. Was this attack from
al-Qaeda?
MR. NETANYAHU: We're not absolutely sure, but there are increasing
signs that it might have been from al-Qaeda, yes.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: What would that mean? Al-Qaeda has never before
directly attacked Israeli citizens, as far as we know.
MR. NETANYAHU: No, Israel is not on the top of the list. We're the
"little Satan." Remember, you are the "Great Satan." We're just an
extension of the corrupt Western civilization, that is, democracy, in
the heart of the Middle East. So we're merely a front position for
you.
So it's true, they have cooperated with Hizbullah in Lebanon, but
this is certainly the first overt massive attack, a double attack,
may I say -- I've just come from the burial of two little boys, two
little brothers, twelve- and thirteen-year-olds. Their father
couldn't even say the prayer for the dead. It had to be said by the
grandfather. So they killed Israeli civilians, murdered them, and
simultaneously fired shoulder-fired missiles at an Israeli aircraft.
This is a very, very dangerous threshold for terror in the world.
Very dangerous.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: So, if this is, indeed, al-Qaeda, how will Israel
respond?
MR. NETANYAHU: I think we're going to decide exactly have we will
respond. But I think the response is part of the overall battle
against terror that President Bush is leading. This is not al-Qaeda
alone. I'm not sure it's al-Qaeda, but all this network requires the
facility of regimes and organizations which collude with one another,
and of course it requires also, I would say, the negligence and the
passivity of other countries that do not take forceful action against
this terror network.
Now, remember, what happens here is a tremendous escalation, because
all our protection against civil aviation comes from the spate of
hijackings and bombings of civilian aircraft in the late sixties. It
was actually begun by Arafat's PLO, against an Israeli target in the
late sixties, against an El Al aircraft. And soon, we had a hijacking
epidemic spread to the entire world.
Equally, here we have the first direct evidence of a shoulder-fired
missile against an Israeli aircraft. And if we don't stop this
epidemic, it could rapidly spread and threaten civil aviation
throughout the world. So this is very dangerous. And remember that
all our protective devices, all the means that we have, are meant to
protect against an invasion of the aircraft itself, either by bombs
or by hijackers, or armed people. It is not so far geared to the
protection of the outer envelope where missiles are fired at an
aircraft that is taking off or landing. So we've got to make serious
adjustments both in technology and in international cooperation to
stop this.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I was speaking with the pilot of the Israeli
aircraft yesterday and he said, basically, if those terrorists had
had better aim, the plane would have been blown up before anybody
knew what happened, that no defenses could have worked. Is there any
effective defense against a shoulder- fired missile?
MR. NETANYAHU: I think there are things we could develop. And I think
that I'd rather not go into that. But I think there are technological
means that could be developed and added to aircraft. But I think, at
the end of the day, we have to knock down this terror network. I
think this is the second wake-up call. It's not as ferocious as
September 11th. But the image, the horrible image of 250 people or
500 people dropping from the sky in a great explosion is something
that doesn't require that much imagination. And this could be
replicated time and time again.
So we have to really take a concerted effort to strip down this
network, to go at the regimes that offer them succor and logistical
support. And, of course, to prevent the passage of weapons like
shoulder-fired missiles. The Mujahadeen had them in Afghanistan. And
some regimes have them today, as you know. And it is important that
we focus our efforts not only against the organizations, but against
the regimes that make the organizations' work possible.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Mr. Netanyahu, thank you very much.