Briefing to the Foreign Press Association by Major General Giora Eiland,
Head of the IDF Operation Branch, and
IDF representative on the Israel-Palestinian committee on implementing the Tenet agreement
Jerusalem, June 14, 2001
Gen. Giora Eiland: This agreement was formally accepted by both
sides, the Israeli and the Palestinian, on both levels - political
and security. It was accepted by the political level by our Prime
Minister on Tuesday morning and it was accepted by the Palestinian
Chairman Arafat on Tuesday night. This is the political level.
As far as the security level is concerned, yesterday there was a
meeting that lasted three hours between the Israelis, the
Palestinians and the American delegation where we spoke about all the
details of this agreement. George Tenet tried to clarify whatever
needed clarification, and all misunderstandings that may have existed
before that meeting were eliminated. So at 3:00 PM when we finished
this meeting, everything was clear enough and both sides expressed
their commitments to implement what was written in this document --
not only according to what is said in this document, but also
according to the spirit that we tried to understand.
Speaking about the spirit of this document, the first paragraph of
this document begins with the words, "It is premised that the
cease-fire between both parties will be kept and both sides will take
any necessary measures to enforce this-cease fire." So this is the
most fundamental thing; all other things are actually details of this
essential thing.
The timeline of implementation is divided into three phases:
The first phase is everything that is to begin immediately. It
includes, first, a beginning of security cooperation between both
sides. Number two is, of course, complete cessation of any violence.
As far as we were concerned, we were supposed to immediately enable
Palestinian security personnel to move in a secure way from one place
to another in the territory of the West Bank and in the territory of
the Gaza Strip, and the Palestinians were expected to begin fighting
terrorism -- not only in order to stop terrorist incidents but also
to prevent further terrorist threats. So this is the first stage. Of
course, there are some other details but this is the most basic
thing.
The second phase is what we are expected to do within the first 48
hours of this agreement. According to the agreement, we were supposed
to "begin" - this is the word, to "begin" - two things. The first, is
to move back our forces, and number two, to ease the closures around
the Palestinian cities and to remove checkpoints and some other
obstacles that we imposed on the Palestinians in the past few weeks.
As I said, we were supposed to begin these two activities within the
first 48 hours. We decided to begin some of these activities not in
the second day of this period but actually to begin it today and to
do some other things beyond what we were expected - like, for
example, to open the international passages in Allenby Bridge from
the Jordan River and in Rafah between Israel and Egypt.
The third phase is not limited in time, but in content, and it is
said that both parties should take all necessary measures. So finally
we will be in the same security situation as we were before this
crisis began at the end of September. We are expected to work on a
timeline or timetable next week and to try to reach an understanding
what is this complete plan and what will be the timeline for the next
steps. We didn't discuss it because it was too early and we are going
to discuss it the beginning of next week.
We expect that this agreement will be fulfilled according to the
spirit that was exercised by George Tenet. There are a lot of
questions whether this agreement will be more successful than the
previous ones. In the past nine months, we tried to reach similar
agreements Palestinians. To mention only a few, there was the first
attempt in Paris a few days after this crisis began. Then there was
much more formal understanding and summit in Sharm el-Sheikh, and
later on there were some other meetings between Chairman Arafat and
Shimon Peres and some others. All of these initiatives failed to last
more than a few hours.
There are two reasons to believe that now there is a greater sense
that this initiative will succeed, although there is no guarantee, of
course, and it is too early to anticipate whether it will work or
not. But at least there are two reasons to believe that the chances
are a little bit better now.
The first is the international involvement in the attempt to persuade
the Palestinians to stop violence. This attempt, or this
international pressure, began two weeks ago after the terrorist
attack in the Dolphinarium in Tel Aviv and it lasted during this
week. We understand that this international pressure is effective and
is one of the reasons why the Palestinians finally accepted this
agreement.
The second reason is the presence of George Tenet here during almost
a week, where he made every possible effort to deliver an agreement
that is fair - it is balanced, it is very professional. And he made
personal attempts, not only to convince the political levels on both
sides that they should accept it, but also spoke to all the security
leaders, specially on the Palestinian side. I think that if he didn't
make this kind of effort, maybe this agreement wouldn't have been
achieved.
Both parties are not completely satisfied with this document. There
are some things that we don't like in this document; there are some
things that we are concerned about; there are some details that we
would prefer to eliminate from this document. The Palestinians have
more or less the same set of complaints or things that they don't
like about this document. But the real question is whether both sides
are really committed to fulfill what is written in this document or
not.
And as I said, since Tuesday morning when our Prime Minister decided
to accept it as it is, we are fully committed to carry out and to
implement whatever is written in this document. I hope that the
Palestinians will adopt the same approach.
Twenty-six hours after the beginning of this new beginning, I can't
say that we are satisfied with the results. So far we can count at
least 16 violent incidents, including 13 shooting incidents in the
West Bank and Gaza and at least three incidents of mortar shelling in
the Gaza Strip. So this is not exactly what we expected to have under
the definition of cease-fire. These statistics are not very much
different from the regular statistics in the past two weeks. We are
not completely sure that the Palestinians are making all the
necessary effort in order to enforce the cessation of the violence. I
have been told now there is another mortar shelling incident in the
Gaza Strip. As I said, some of the messages that they transfer do not
completely fit the spirit and the atmosphere to which we committed
ourselves only yesterday.
There are some Palestinian leaders, whether they are leaders of the
Tanzim or whether they are leaders of the Hamas or even leaders that
belong to the Palestinian Administration, who try to give different
interpretations to this document, to speak about some conditions that
should be fulfilled before they can cease fire. For example, some of
them understand that they have to stop shooting, but only from Area A
or other such explanations. There is no room for any kind of
different interpretations other than the interpretation that was
cleared, clarified and explained yesterday.
But we know we are only after 24 hours and it is too early to judge
the situation. We said that we would do whatever we need to do with
the goodwill and with the deliberate attempt to succeed, and we hope
that the Palestinians will do similar things in the next days.
Our next meeting is going to take place tomorrow (15 June). All three
delegations are going to meet tomorrow afternoon and we are going to
judge the situation, to evaluate the situation, to try to bring to
the committee requests or complaints. I hope that the situation on
the ground tomorrow will be better than today so there will be some
basis for further progress according to the document.
This is more or less what I can tell you so far, and I understand
that you have a lot of questions, so please.
Q: Is it clear that this part of the agreement is that the IDF has to
reinstitute military investigations in cases of Palestinian
[fatalities? (poor audio)] ... Related to that, can you tell us a bit
about why the IDF was using artillery shells [employing 'flachettes'?
(poor audio)]... in the Gaza Strip?
Gen. Eiland: First, it is quite correct what you said, we are told to
reinvestigate where Palestinians were not killed as a result of
violence or terrorism, that is correct. We do use this kind of
artillery shell because this kind of shell is effective when they are
shot at the right targets. There was an incident that happened a few
days ago in Gaza and I guess that you are referring to that incident.
The mistake was not the use of a certain kind of shell or other. But
there was a different mistake, in that the tank commander didn't
adjust the right range, so he didn't shoot at the right target and he
shot at other targets. Of course when you talk about the results
there is nothing to do with the type of shells.
Q: The gut feeling is that firing shells in a populated area is not
--
Gen. Eiland: No, it is not in a populated area the place that he
shot. Any time that a tank or any other responses are required, it is
required because there is shooting from some specific place, and we
always try to find the right answer. Sometimes when there is fire
from a populated area, like Beit Jala for, example, which happens
every day, or Khan Yunis which happens every day, or in Rafah which
happens a few times every day, then of course we return fire to where
the fire comes from, and sometimes it is a populated area.
Q: Why was it used then?
Gen. Eiland: We use the same kind of shells during the 18 years of
presence in Lebanon for example.
Q: You said you agreed that after (audio break)
Gen. Eiland: Of course not. I said in the beginning of my
presentation that the first paragraph of this understanding is that
there is a premise that the cease-fire will be kept, and if there is
no cease-fire then it might be too dangerous and too difficult to
proceed. Just to give you an example, we anticipate to limit or to
remove a lot of the checkpoints and to enable more and more of the
Palestinians to move freely from one place to another. Now let us see
what is going on. Until yesterday in the West Bank, there are
thousands of kilometers of roads, on both sides, which the Israelis
and the Palestinians have shared and use simultaneously. There are
tens of thousands of Israeli vehicles passing every day on these
roads. There are hundreds of Palestinians who carry weapons, whether
legally or illegally, who are willing to carry out attacks on Israeli
traffic. One of the easiest things in the world is to ride a
Palestinian cab and to choose randomly any Israeli car and to bypass
this car and to shoot from a range of five meters.
So, of course, if the other side doesn't take real measures to
prevent these kind of attacks, then it might be too risky to open all
the roads to let free movement of the Palestinians, because the
results might be a tremendous increase in the number of Israeli
casualties. So of course, the cessation of violence and specifically
the cease-fire, as it was said in the document, is the basis for
everything.
Of course, we have to judge the situation every day, not only
according to the previous day, which is important, but also according
to two other factors: namely, the intent and the effort. The intent
is expressed in the way that the leaders say what should be done and
what shouldn't be done, and the effort is something that we can see
according to the operations of the Palestinian security forces on the
ground.
But we said that we are not only committed to do what we are told, we
are even ready to take some calculated risks in order to create a
better atmosphere in order to achieve what is for us, at least, very
important. But of course, we have to evaluate the situation every
day, every 48 hours, before the meeting tomorrow and the next
meetings to see what will be the speed of our implementation of this
agreement.
Q: Lt. Col. Edri of Intelligence was deliberately shot today. How
serious a blow is that to the cease-fire?
Gen. Eiland: There is no real difference between this incident and
the other 16 incidents. The only difference is that there was a
fatality in this case and not in the others. So, we don't judge every
specific case and we said that we would not judge the situation only
after a few hours. Of course we regret this incident, but it is not
something that changes our decision to continue, at least for the
next 24 hours.
Q: Can you just refresh our memories, is this the second cease-fire
after Sharm el-Sheikh or were there other cease-fires in between? Can
you tell us why those didn't work and why this is supposed to work?
And is it true that Yasser Arafat only agreed to this on the basis
that he wouldn't have to tell his people and the Tanzim what the
basic cease-fire means, and also, what is the obligation on Mr.
Sharon?
Gen. Eiland: I will begin from your last question. There are no
secret obligations of either side to the Americans or from the
Americans to anyone else. Everything is exposed, everything is known
perfectly to both sides. So whatever is written in this paper is
known to both sides and whatever is written in this paper, of course
requires both sides to do what they should do and there are no
conditions like some of them you have just mentioned.
Now, I didn't say that the success of this initiative is guaranteed.
Actually the situation is very severe. We know that both sides miss
the fundamental trust, because we lost this trust, and one of the
first things we have to do is to try to rebuild this trust, because
this is the basis for any security cooperation. But I said that this
time there are more chances that this initiative will succeed because
of the two factors I mentioned. One is the international pressure or
awareness of the situation. Pressure is being exerted on both sides
to accept what is written there. The second thing, I think this time,
contrary to the others, it was not done in some kind of a hasty way
and it was not a kind of document that was negotiated and didn't find
a way to bridge the gaps. The Tenet document was made in a very
professional and balanced way, maybe by the best person in the world
that could do it, and that is why I think we can implement what is
written there, because the requirements make sense.
Q: What are the others?
Gen. Eiland: There have been at least three or four previous
promises, not all of them were agreements.
Q: The murder of Lt. Col. Yehuda Edri of the Israeli intelligence, do
you think this killing was a revenge or is there a possibility that
such an agent might have been turned and can you suspect other
similar incidents? The second question is referring to the use of
shells - whether the field command has the right or not the for
ordering their use?
Gen. Eiland: We do not know details and there is an investigation
about this incident that happened today so I can't give you any
specific details according to what you asked. Speaking about orders,
who is authorized to give orders to do certain things, maybe I should
emphasize that. We changed yesterday two things. Number one is the
rules of engagement - now they are much more restricted and we will
try to avoid any possible state or any possible misunderstanding, and
we are going to be very strict about that.
The second thing, some of the authorities that were given to low
levels, the brigade commanders, for example, are now concentrated in
upper levels - the commander himself or the general staff - in order
to control the use of force in a better way. Of course it limits to a
certain degree the capability of forces to respond or to react. But
we prefer to take these steps in the beginning of the initiative,
hopefully that the other side will take similar steps.
Q: I have two questions. First you said in the meeting yesterday ...
that Tenet was taking the ambiguity out of the stuff. If you describe
the process for example, the issues distinguishing between shooting
from Area A and Area B ....
Gen. Eiland: Speaking specifically about the example that you gave
yourself, the words are clear. It is written in the clearest possible
way that there shall be no violence and no shooting from any area by
anyone under any circumstances. So there is not much room for
different interpretation. But there were some other details in the
document on which clarification was needed. Everything was said and
explained yesterday - and there was even a chance for both parties to
try to persuade a little bit, not about the content of the document
but about the way that they are going to implement - everything that
was discussed yesterday was concluded in a very clear way by Tenet,
so there is no room for any kind of a misunderstanding.
Q: The second question, at the start of this round of discussions,
how did you prepare for a rapid transition? For example what happens
about humanitarian things...
Gen. Eiland: I guess you know more or less that Tenet is a very
practical man and doesn't speak so much about the background of his
mission. His mission basically was one thing: to start again security
cooperation between both sides and to try to bring about a situation
that is as similar as possible to the security situation as it
existed before this crisis began. So this was quite a clear mission
and he stuck to this mission. He didn't refer to any other aspect of
the conflict - humanitarian, political or anything else. It was only
a security agreement and everything that was said and discussed was
under military security professional aspects.
Q: According to your comments, Israel will see that the agreements
are implemented when Arafat starts stopping the effects of the
terrorism, is happening in the field? That is the first question.
Second question, there has been a lot of discussion about this, who
are the people that Arafat should put in jail? The ones that he put
out at the beginning of the intifada or only the ones who according
to the Palestinians thinking, the ones that are preparing now
terrorist attacks?
Gen. Eiland: Palestinians are expected to prevent terrorism of all
kinds and to make all efforts, not only to prevent a specific attack,
but also to create a situation where terrorist attacks will be less
and less possible, because some of the capabilities that exist now
will not exist after they take the necessary steps. Now, both sides
understand very well what exactly the Palestinians are expected to do
and what not. I don't think it is the right place and the right time
to discuss details like names of people. There is full understanding
of what is expected. Of course, if the operations against terrorism
are not taken, then it will be very hard for us to proceed and return
to the situation as it was before, because that is similar to what I
tried to explain about the situation in the West Bank roads. If we
take all our measures, and remove them and we will enable the people
from the Hamas or the Islamic Jihad to move freely and to carry out
attacks, like the attack that happened in Tel Aviv two weeks ago,
then of course this is not our interest and of course we will not go
in this direction. So we hope that real measures are taken.
Q: One question on the incitement to violence (audio break).
Gen. Eiland: As I said, I don't want to speak in detail about this
clause of counter-terrorism activities that both sides should take. I
just want to mention, since you spoke about the Hamas and the Islamic
Jihad. These two organizations, in order to carry out terrorist
attacks, need three things: Number one capability - they do have
operational capability; number two is motivation - they do have
motivation; number three is the permission from the formal authority
to operate. Until eight or nine months ago they did not have the
last, or really the first thing - they did not have the permission.
So that is why there were very few terrorist attacks. But when the
Palestinians changed their strategy gave their permission, gave what
we call the 'green light' for these organizations to operate, of
course we could see the results.
Q: Two questions. The first one, you gave a general description, but
was the killing of the army officer in a random ambush by a gang -
how would you describe it? The second question deals with the killing
of a Palestinian last night. Was this by vigilantes who carried out
this horrendous shooting, or by Palestinians?
Gen. Eiland: To your second question, we don't know. There was a
Palestinian who was killed and three others that were wounded. It was
at night, it was on a road that both sides used, so it could be very
reasonable that it was a mistake made by the Palestinians who
attacked them, very similar to the way in which one or two nights
before the Greek priest was killed a few kilometers from this
specific place, and I guess they didn't intend to kill specifically
that Greek priest. So it makes much more sense that it was made by
the Palestinians, although the Israeli police are investigating other
possibilities. Speaking about the Lt. Col., I said I can't give you
any further details.
Q: Two questions. Is there anything about the length of a cooling-off
period in this regard? You are specifically saying within six
weeks.
Gen. Eiland: The cooling-off period is not part of this agreement.
Sometimes we confuse between different documents. The cooling-off
period is mentioned in the Mitchell report and we speak about a
period of six weeks, of a cooling-off period that will begin after a
real cease-fire exists. So we are not in the stage that we can start
counting these six weeks.
Q: What do you want the PA Authority to do to passing gunmen, people
who are shooting in areas, area B or C, that are fully under your
control?
Gen. Eiland: All places without exception. Those carrying out these
attacks leave Palestinian control area and after they attack, go back
to the Palestinian controlled area. Some of them belong to the
Palestinian security organizations. So, the first thing which is
required is to stop activities of people like this. But of course,
they have the full responsibility to stop any kind of violent
activity that leaves their area and goes back to their area. It is
just like the terrorist attack in Tel Aviv two weeks ago. It is true
that was carried out in Tel Aviv, but that doesn't mean that it was
only our responsibility to prevent it, because those who carried it
out left Kalkilya, which is a fully Palestinian controlled area, and
returned there.
Q: Is there any clause in the Tenet paper that says that after this
cooling-off period the two sides have to perceive the implementation
of the political measures in the Mitchell Report?
Gen. Eiland: Not at all. As I said, this agreement is purely a
professional security agreement. It doesn't mention the next steps
that should be fulfilled, if and when there is a cease-fire. It
mentions the Mitchell Report, but this document doesn't deal with the
other measures that should be accomplished according to the Mitchell
Report.
The Mitchell Report, like any other understandings and existing
agreements, are mentioned in the beginning - namely, that all parties
are committed to all previous agreements, including the agreements of
understanding of Sharm el-Sheikh and some other understanding and the
Mitchell Report, and that is it. There is nothing in the content of
the Tenet report has anything to do with the political part of the
Mitchell Report.
Q: Do you know when the DCOs (District Coordination Offices) will be
working again?
Gen. Eiland: Eight out of the nine DCOs are operating now. The only
DCO that doesn't operate is the DCO in the southern brigade in Gaza.
This DCO stopped operating about a month or two months after the
beginning of this crisis, when a bomb was put in a room where the
Israeli officer was and he was killed. The building was destroyed,
and of course there is no minimum level of trust between both sides
after that incident that could enable working together in any way.
But all other DCOs continued working, not only from yesterday - they
have continued working in some level throughout the entire crisis.
But of course we tried to strengthen that and we tried to put much
more content into their mutual activities.
Q: There seems to be an argument on when the cease-fire takes effect.
You say yesterday at 3:00 and the Palestinians say no to that. At
yesterday's meeting did you leave this meeting without this matter
being cleared up? Did Tenet say nothing?
Gen. Eiland: Tenet said in the clearest possible words that the
cease-fire begins just as we left that meeting yesterday at 3:00 PM
in Tel Aviv, and there is no room for any kind of misunderstanding,
at least about this point.
Q: (inaudible)
Gen. Eiland: This agreement was not signed. So in a way you can say
it is not a formal agreement, but it is more an understanding of both
sides. But both parties of course, when they had this document in
their hands and they said to Tenet that they fully accepted it and
they are committed to fulfill what is written in this document, it is
almost like a signed agreement.
Q: Did you shake hands.
Gen. Eiland: Much more, we kissed each other.
Q: Seriously?
Gen. Eiland: Yes, this is the Middle East, you forgot.
Q: What happens if the Palestinians want to (poor audio)
Gen. Eiland: The atmosphere expressed in this entire document is that
both sides should go forward and not back. This is our intent and
this is our approach and if the situation allows and permits - and it
depends very much on the will of the other side - then there is no
reason why this kind of question will arise. But I can't be fully
optimistic about that, and if the situation stays as it is and if
there is no reduction in the level of violence and there is no real
attempt to stop terrorism, then I guess we will have to reassess the
situation and to see whether we can proceed unilaterally while the
other side doesn't do anything. But I guess it is too early to
estimate and to give predictions about that.
Q: (inaudible)
Gen. Eiland: Hopefully we might need less and less American
involvement in the situation and if we really come to a situation as
it was until nine months ago then we will not need the steady
presence of the Americans.
Q: You seem very optimistic, which is the very opposite attitude from
all the comments from all the Israelis and the Palestinians have. Why
is it that, there must be some good reason for that?
Gen. Eiland: I didn't say I was optimistic. This is the impression;
maybe it is not the right impression. I said that contrary to other
attempts in the past, this attempt is more serious, it was made in a
more professional or more patient way. So if there is a chance to
bridge the gaps between both sides as far as security matters are
concerned, this is the opportunity. So there is a better basis now
than in the past. But it doesn't mean that I am optimistic about
that. I mentioned that both sides have to rebuild the trust between
them.
After 24 hours we are not satisfied with the Palestinian efforts and
the results as we can see them on the ground, but we understand that
if we don't use all our effort and if we don't show a real goodwill,
then there will be no chance to succeed, so we decided to take any
possible measures in order to succeed. As far as we are concerned, we
will do anything that is needed so that this initiative will finally
be successful.